Breaking off at the hook

**BassKet888** · 10-19-2008, 09:30 PM

It's how you are making your knots. Don't use a Palomar not. Use a San Diego or Cinch knot. Won't break as much.

There are many advantages/disadvantages to fluoro. I used to fish with mono a lot, but now, 90% Fluoro, 5% mono and 5% other.

**Big O Tires Angler** · 10-19-2008, 09:30 PM

Hahaha, I can put together the pieces of the sentence and get a general understanding. Once in a while there is a slip up and you use a different word than what you had intended.

outdoorsman · 10-19-2008, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by godshippy

I swear sometimes I don't understand what outdoorsman is saying...

Can I clarify anything?? Sorry, im a teenager

**Big O Tires Angler** · 10-19-2008, 08:15 PM

I swear sometimes I don't understand what outdoorsman is saying...

When tying a Palomar knot with fluorocarbon make sure you WET THE LINE A LOT AND PULL SLOW! In fact...PULL SLOWER! I had some 12# P-Line Halo on one of my baitcasters and never had a problem with breakoffs using the Palomar knot...and I abuse the heck out of my lures and my line goes through quite a bit of abuse too...but no problems as long as you WET THE LINE AND PULL SLOW!

My little brother was using 8# Sufix Elite and never had any problems catching fish...he now uses 6# P-Line Fluoroclear, which is some really good stuff. I use 10# Fluoroclear on my spinning and baitcast. The price is really good and I've never run into any problems with the line...I'm very very satisfied with it.

My other baitcast is filled with 30# Sufix Performance Braid...I think I'll be switching it up to 17# Maxima Ultragreen and get another baitcast reel for 65# Sufix Performance Braid :P

outdoorsman · 10-19-2008, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by compadrejt

[quote author=outdoorsman link=1224460013/0#9 date=1224473343]

See my catch rate wasnt as high with normal line on some baits. Line is like other equipment- high quality gets u further than skimping.

Catch rate is affected by line thickness more than by visibility under water. If you use 14# fluoro vs. 10# fluoro, the 10# line will catch more fish. Same thing with Fluro vs. Mono. If you have mono that is thicker than the fluoro line, the fluoro will catch more fish. Try it the other way around. Use 6# mono and compare it to 10 lb fluoro. My money is on the 6# mono.
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Good point, because im def. not gonna use 20lbmono for my finnesse baits.
Im not sure why break off a good thing. I used to use 4lb mono

thanks to use guys ive upgraded to 7lb and love it. So until this fails its goona be good for me

**CJC** · 10-19-2008, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by outdoorsman

See my catch rate wasnt as high with normal line on some baits. Line is like other equipment- high quality gets u further than skimping.

Catch rate is affected by line thickness more than by visibility under water. If you use 14# fluoro vs. 10# fluoro, the 10# line will catch more fish. Same thing with Fluro vs. Mono. If you have mono that is thicker than the fluoro line, the fluoro will catch more fish. Try it the other way around. Use 6# mono and compare it to 10 lb fluoro. My money is on the 6# mono.
High quality doesn't have to mean pricey.

outdoorsman · 10-19-2008, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by compadrejt

[quote author=outdoorsman link=1224460013/0#6 date=1224471807]
Honestly in the last year i have never broken a fish off on floro. This was the first year really using it. Make sure you have a high wuality floro, theres alot of good brands

It is the high price of fluoro and the extra precautions that you have to take. Plus I really don't see the benefit from using it as compared to mono of the same thickness. I don't think my catch rate is diminished with maxima. While most in here use 10#+, I use 8# test and the diameter is approximately the same.[/quote]

See my catch rate wasnt as high with normal line on some baits. Line is like other equipment- high quality gets u further than skimping.

**CJC** · 10-19-2008, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by outdoorsman

Honestly in the last year i have never broken a fish off on floro. This was the first year really using it. Make sure you have a high wuality floro, theres alot of good brands

It is the high price of fluoro and the extra precautions that you have to take. Plus I really don't see the benefit from using it as compared to mono of the same thickness. I don't think my catch rate is diminished with maxima. While most in here use 10#+, I use 8# test and the diameter is approximately the same.

**civicrr** · 10-19-2008, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by 5littleones

are VERY sensitive to heat related failures. *Even these, you must wet the line and tie that knot very gently ... make sure *your main line does not suffer the heat related 'curlies' ...

I agree. The fluro line is extremely susceptible to heat related failures. I haven't had any issues with the palomar knot.

Depends on what brand line you are using too. I have had good luck with the Trilene 100% fluro. I am gonna try out some of the BPS brand as I have heard good things about it too.

outdoorsman · 10-19-2008, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by compadrejt

[quote author=MichaelD link=1224460013/0#2 date=1224461988]i'm using the gamikatsu drop shot hooks, tied to 8# flourocarbon leader off the swivel, and it breaks right at the knot on the hook.

That is the reason I don't use fluorocarbon any more. [/quote]

Honestly in the last year i have never broken a fish off on floro. This was the first year really using it. Make sure you have a high wuality floro, theres alot of good brands