The Fish Sniffer Newspaper Online Forums - Trout Board http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/ All Trout, all the time. en Sat, 18 May 2013 20:10:15 GMT vBulletin 60 http://fishsniffervb.thefishsniffer.netdna-cdn.com/images/styles/Aesthetica/misc/rss.png The Fish Sniffer Newspaper Online Forums - Trout Board http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/ Stampede / Boca reports ? http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/105010-stampede-boca-reports.html Sat, 18 May 2013 15:16:19 GMT Hey guys I'm heading up to the stampede/Boca lake area next week, I'm just curious if anyone has any reports for the area. I appreciate the feedback. ]]> Trout Board fishon1 http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/105010-stampede-boca-reports.html Big Pyramid Lake Trout http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/105004-big-pyramid-lake-trout.html Fri, 17 May 2013 23:33:55 GMT Caught this one today trolling at Pyramid. Measured 28 inches long and fat, guessing it weighed around 8-9 pounds? Image:... Caught this one today trolling at Pyramid. Measured 28 inches long and fat, guessing it weighed around 8-9 pounds?
]]> Trout Board jwale http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/105004-big-pyramid-lake-trout.html Limits @ Collins Wednesday 5/15/13 http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/105001-limits-%40-collins-wednesday-5-15-13-a.html Fri, 17 May 2013 22:56:55 GMT A day off to go fishing was LONG over due! Brother in-law and I took off for Collins on Wednesday - not many fishermen that day. Water temp was 73,... A day off to go fishing was LONG over due! Brother in-law and I took off for Collins on Wednesday - not many fishermen that day. Water temp was 73, got beyond the buoys at the ramp and started fishing, pulling rapalas and Sep's ultra light with a white powerbait egg and a threaded crawler - 1/2 way to the dam the crawler got the first one in the boat, we circled around but eventually made it to the dam, 2 more on the crawler and we switched all our lines to the power egg/crawler combo - we kept circling the area at the far side of the dam, as the sun rose we had to set the downriggers to 20' - fishing about 80' back. Seemed to be a mix of DFG cookie-cutter planters (white meat) and hold-overs or Collins plants (with red meat) some were very fiesty!

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]]> Trout Board Fishin_Bear http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/105001-limits-%40-collins-wednesday-5-15-13-a.html Beardsley or the road to Donnells?? Anyone have intel on if the road is open..... http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/105000-beardsley-road-donnells-anyone-have-intel-if-road-open.html Fri, 17 May 2013 21:28:29 GMT Was planning a trip to Beardsley & maybe checking out the river on that dirt road to Donnells. I know it's been tempermental in the past, but just checking here if anyone can confirm if it's clear this time of year...Thx ]]> Trout Board sarahpee http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/105000-beardsley-road-donnells-anyone-have-intel-if-road-open.html Any camanche reports??? http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104999-any-camanche-reports.html Fri, 17 May 2013 21:13:08 GMT Usually do pretty good out there during the hotter months, haven't been for a couple years.. Im thinkin about going with a buddy in a couple weeks and maybe get a camp site.. Havent heard to much?? Anybody hearing any reports?? Thanks ]]> Trout Board D Fish http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104999-any-camanche-reports.html Lake Chabot?? http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104987-lake-chabot.html Fri, 17 May 2013 17:23:44 GMT Anyone having luck? Its been a slow season (for at least me) out there..... curious if anybody is doing any good? Anyone having luck? Its been a slow season (for at least me) out there..... curious if anybody is doing any good? ]]> Trout Board sja http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104987-lake-chabot.html uvr http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104984-uvr.html Fri, 17 May 2013 07:22:57 GMT Has any one been lately...maiden voyage on my new to me 14' Klamath...how deep are the kokes and trout...where should I start...going sat evening and sun morning I'm thinking loon or ice house or uvr again if productive...kids are excited and I am as well...any help would be much appreciated pm's r great too...will report w pics thanks ]]> Trout Board fat fish http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104984-uvr.html Jackson Meadows http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104960-jackson-meadows.html Thu, 16 May 2013 04:05:40 GMT Looks like I may be heading to Jackson Meadows over Memorial Day weekend. If any other sniffers are heading up keep an eye out and say hi, Ill be in... Looks like I may be heading to Jackson Meadows over Memorial Day weekend. If any other sniffers are heading up keep an eye out and say hi, Ill be in a 12' valco and I'll have the radio on channel 69. ]]> Trout Board finsane http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104960-jackson-meadows.html 88 + ICR (Pictures) http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104956-88-icr-pictures.html Thu, 16 May 2013 02:36:36 GMT Met with Nighthawk and picked up Jetspray and headed up 88 for al look. We arrived at Caples shortly after 0700 and fished at the south corner of the... Met with Nighthawk and picked up Jetspray and headed up 88 for al look. We arrived at Caples shortly after 0700 and fished at the south corner of the dam. It was a beautiful spring day. Caples is nearly full and free of any ice. The day use area and launch are open but the campground is closed. Fishing was very slow and managed only one fish in 1 1/2 hours. Next stop was Red Lake. We fished there for a short while in a heavy west with no luck. Talking to other anglers we were told that fishing was very slow and we saw 1 8 inch LCT on a stringer. Next we checked out the W. Carson at Hope Valley. The river was in great shape but there were no fish evident. The road to Blue Lakes remains closed 7 miles above 88. We checked out other spots on the West Carson and found them equally devoid of fish. Other anglers we talked to were fishless. Lastly we stopped at ICR and got only one fish from below the campground. The wind was a factor. If you are planning on comming up you may want to wait another week. Fishing is slow. Tom, Dave it was nice fishing with you guys. Maybe next week will be better.

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]]> Trout Board Captain Compassion http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104956-88-icr-pictures.html End of Days for Pyramid Lake and Lake Tahoe Fisheries ? http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104937-end-days-pyramid-lake-lake-tahoe-fisheries.html Wed, 15 May 2013 15:40:33 GMT Yesterday in the Reno Gazette ..Reno Gazette-Journal | Reno news, community, entertainment, yellow pages and classifieds. Serving Reno, Nevada |... Yesterday in the Reno Gazette ..Reno Gazette-Journal | Reno news, community, entertainment, yellow pages and classifieds. Serving Reno, Nevada | rgj.com... look for article and video report in Local News . New Zealand Mud Snails were found in the Truckee River . Tahoe and Pyramid are at Grave risk now. One snail asexually can reproduce 1 million snails in a year and they Destroy Fisheries...... You may be able to thank Fly Fisherman with Felt shoe Soles.... this is Considered the Main Culprit for Transference of Invasive species other than Boat bilge contaminants . They are banned now on many waters and Rubber shoe Soles are required... ( However the felt soles are far superior to Wet Rock Grippige ) . The N. Z. mud snails were also found in the Owns river in 2000 and rush creek .( 750,000 mudsnails per square meter have been found in some waters.) Check these links.....http://nas.er.usgs.gov/taxgroup/moll...tribution.aspxNew Zealand MudsnailCalifornia School of Flyfishing, Nevada City and Truckee, CA > Environmental > Nzms Loading up to fish the Lake of the Sky.... before the Darkness takes All the Fisheries and " Old Pictures " May be what we All Will Have Left............:cry:..... gst...... Additional Intel from California School of Fly Fishing.......Environment

The New Zealand Mud Snail: Destroying a stream near you


DECONTAMINATION

Get the full report of California Department of Fish and Game and US Fish and Wildlife NZMS decontamination testing.
Get the report from Colorado division of Fish and Wildlife comparing Formula 409 to Sparquat 256. Many people have referred to this study to dismiss the work done by CDF&G and USFWS; however, PLEASE NOTE that the Colorado study used consumer grade "anti bacterial" Formula 409 rather than the commercial grade 409 degreaser/disinfectant used in the original study.
Sparquat 256 is a highly effective molluscicide that is also proven effective against whirling disease. It is considered the gold standard for disinfecting wading and aquaculture equipment by many agencies, but is not readily available to the average consumer.Sparquat 256 can be sourced here.
If you cannot locate Sparquat 256:
1) MIX equal parts water and Formula 409 degreaser/disinfectant . . . NOT any other Formula 409!

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2) 3/4 tsp (3.8 grams) of 99% Copper Sulfate Pentahydrate (available on-line or from farm supply) in 1 gal.of water

Gear can either be put in a bucket to soak, or placed in a plastic bag with solution, shaken and allowed to steep for 5 minutes. The copper solution can also be sprayed on gear (409 doesn't work sprayed). To remove any snails that may not have been immediately killed, thoroughly rinse gear with clean water before transporting to a new location. Both chemicals cause snails to withdraw into their shells making them easier to remove than using water alone. Dump used solution into municipal sewage facilities if possible or onto bare earth well away from water. There is heated debate within the California Department of Fish and Game whether copper sulfate (a highly toxic substance) is suitable for general public use.
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3) Freeze gear solid . This might take 6-12 hours or more.

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4) Completely dry gear.

This isn't as easy as it sounds, a slight damp spot under the insole can harbor live snails for over a month. Heat will assist in killing snails during drying.
5. Consider dedicating a set of wading gear to waters known to harbor NZMS.


Description

A brown to black very small (maximum size of 5 mm) mudsnail with a sharply conical shell with five (rarely 6) spirals. The small size and 5 spirals are distinguishing characteristics for layman’s field identification.
Natural history

A native to New Zealand, the New Zealand mudsnail (Potamopyrgus antipodarum) (NZMS) lives in a variety of habitats ranging from estuaries and lakes to large rivers and small streams. It feeds on bottom dwelling algae (periphyton) and detritus. The mudsnail can reproduce sexually or through the process of parthenogenesis, which produced clones of the female mudsnail. In its native waters the mudsnail population is primarily kept in check by trematode (small worm) parasites that sterilize the snail or change mudsnail behavior making it more likely that mudsnails are eaten by foraging waterfowl.
Probably around 1986 the mudsnail was imported from New Zealand into a trout hatchery in Idaho from which it was widely disseminated through trout stocking. Another theory suggests it made its way into the States via Australia. In September 2005 a second morph, possibly a second species, of NZMS was discovered in the Snake River. The Western American strain is clonal and apparently did not bring the normally associated trematode parasites with it. Without its natural enemies, the mudsnail has spread uncontrolled through some of the most productive waters in North America.
The mudsnail has a tremendous propensity to rapidly populate its environment, and upwards of 750,000 mudsnails per square meter have been found in some waters. The mudsnail does not appear to be self-limiting from density dependent effects. Their sheer numbers dominate the base of the food web and they can consume over 80% of a river’s productivity. Their presence exerts a negative impact on mayflies, stoneflies, caddisflies and some midges. In one Montana stream infested with NZMS only 3% of the macroinvertebrate biomass now consists of indigenous species. Conversely scuds and some midges thrive on the mudsnail’s nitrogen rich feces.
Even when deprived of other food, trout and sculpins avoid feeding on the NZMS and one study suggests that even when they are consumed, mudsnails can pass through the digestive system of trout unscathed. Whitefish and some crayfish do feed on the mudsnail, but studies suggest that mudsnails are a poor source of nutrients compared to other aquatic invertebrates. Though quantitative analysis is not yet published, it appears quite likely that the presence of large numbers of NZMS can have a profoundly negative impact on a trout or salmon fishery.
Habitat

In lab studies the mudsnail selects gravel as its preferred substrate; in the wild they can inhabit just about any stable substrate but seem to do best in areas where streambeds and riparian zones have been disturbed or altered. Spring fed creeks and tailwaters produce the highest densities of snails. Areas of high water velocities produce the least suitable habitat. Diverse, natural habitats seem fairly resistant to NZMS colonization, but this may be a result of the habitat preference of particular clones that have been introduced. So far, high-gradient first order streams and lakes have not been colonized in the West (Lake Ontario supports a NZMS from a European clone. This appears to be a mudsnail specifically predisposed to dwelling in lakes).
Though the NZMS can tolerate temperature extremes from near freezing to 90°F, they thrive between 65°F and 70°F. Water chemistry appears to play only a minor role in growth and reproduction rates.
Distribution

The NZMS has been documented in the Columbia, Snake, Missouri, and Colorado drainages. In 2000 snails made landfall in California in the Lower Owens River near Bishop. Since then it has moved throughout the Owens drainage including Hot Creek, Rush Creek and Lone Pine Creek. In October 2003 mudsnails were discovered in Putah Creek and two months later in the Mokelumne. In January 2004 a well established population was discovered in an eleven mile reach of the Calaveras River. A population was found in the Napa River drainage later that summer that was possibly spread by construction equipment that had been used on the Mokelumne. NZMS were later documented in Piru Creek and by early 2006 NZMS populations were popping up in small creeks throughout Southern California. On December 29, 2006 NZMS were found in the spring that feeds the Department of Fish and Game's Hot Creek hatchery near Mammoth Lakes. Director Ryann Broddrick made the decision to continue to plant the contaminated trout into waters already infected with NZMS.
In 2007 NZMS were discovered in the Lower American River near Sunrise Bridge (home to one our largest hatcheries); in Alameda creek then Hayward Creek, the largest watershed within the San Francisco Bay region; and in Santa Cruz's San Lorenzo River - home to a nearly extinct population of coho salmon. In late 2007 snails were found in Lake Shasta - the only colony of lake dwelling snails in the US outside of Lake Ontario. It may be a new strain, or simply the original California strain that has adapted to still water. A year later they were discovered in Big Lagoon, and in the nearby tidewater narrows between Lakes Earl and Talawa, Humboldt County. Later in 2007 they appeared in Antioch Creek in the South Bay. In 2008 NZMS were found in the Russian, Smith, and Klamath Rivers. As of September 2009 additional infestations were discovered in Baxter Creek in the East Bay and in the Stanislaus River.
The invasion rate is amazing when put in the context that these mudsnails have been inCurrent distribution of NZMS in California.
Within a river system downstream drift and spread is facilitated by the mudsnail's propensity to cling to leaves and "raft" with the current. Upstream spread is poorly understood. The invasion is rarely a smooth march outward, but hop scotches like spotting before a forest fire which suggests spreading by vector. Birds, fish, and even cattle have been implicated on an anecdotal level, but evidence strongly points towards wading anglers as the primary source of NZMS dispersion. In a recent survey of 50 wading anglers at Putah creek, 100% of the fishermen had mudsnails on their waders and/or in their boots (an average of 33 snails per angler!). The possibility has been raised that the Mokelumne may have been inoculated from the Calaveras by salmon monitoring activities.
Control

With current technologies, once established NZMS are unlikely to be controlled. The importation of parasitic trematodes has been considered but the potential disruption to native fauna has yet to be established. Since the mudsnail is clonal it has very little genetic resistance to a clone specific disease process and perhaps genetic engineering will provide us with a targeted weapon against the NZMS. Perhaps the mudsnail will take care of itself. Invasive exotics are well known for overshooting the carrying capacity of their new found home. NZMS populations in Lake Zurich rose dramatically then crashed. The populations in Denmark have all but disappeared. Scientists still do not know why.
Containment

Since NZMS populations can't be controlled once they become established, the first order of defense is containment. Angler awareness is paramount since it is likely that the spread of the mudsnails is strongly associated with wading. Thorough decontamination (see top of page) of wading gear is mandatory to halt the spread of NZMS. Though inspection of wading gear has been suggested as a measure of control, the fact that snails may be a small as a fleck of pepper make this route highly unreliable. Immediate, frequent, and persistent bio assessment is needed to identify and (hopefully) contain incipient populations of NZMS.

Further information

There is almost as much urban legend as fact regarding the NZMS. Even some “facts” are questionable and information is changing by the week. Excelent up-to-date information is available at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/invasives/mudsnail/ and www2.montana.edu/nzms.

]]> Trout Board Captain Tahoe http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104937-end-days-pyramid-lake-lake-tahoe-fisheries.html Spiicer Meadows Res. 5/14 http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104935-spiicer-meadows-res-5-14-a.html Wed, 15 May 2013 14:18:53 GMT Good fishing until a T-storm brought wind and grape size hail around 2:00 PM. Attachment 14385... Good fishing until a T-storm brought wind and grape size hail around 2:00 PM.


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]]> Trout Board borntoscout http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104935-spiicer-meadows-res-5-14-a.html Worth going to Eagle Lake over Memorial Day? http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104933-worth-going-eagle-lake-over-memorial-day.html Wed, 15 May 2013 02:54:48 GMT I generally get every forth week off work and unfortunately my next week off lines up with Memorial Day. My parents want to meet up somewhere and... I generally get every forth week off work and unfortunately my next week off lines up with Memorial Day. My parents want to meet up somewhere and and Mom suggested Eagle Lake. I used to fish Eagle a lot but it was usually in the Winter and the water was a lot higher. I have a place to stay in Spaulding but I heard that the ramp was just about unuseable.

I was wondering if anyone had been to Eagle Lake, on the opener, for the last couple of years? Too many people? Is the lake still even worth fishing? I see photos now and it looks to me like the fish have gotten quite a lot smaller. I used to go on the opener but the last time was about 15 years ago.

Any help or advice would be great. ]]> Trout Board shasta_steve http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104933-worth-going-eagle-lake-over-memorial-day.html Went on a little scout today http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104931-went-little-scout-today.html Wed, 15 May 2013 02:28:30 GMT Figured id head up to my super secret squirrel lake in an area where i go wheelin alot to see if the trout were biting. Ended up catching 3 little... Figured id head up to my super secret squirrel lake in an area where i go wheelin alot to see if the trout were biting. Ended up catching 3 little bows, 2 on night crawler with an anise scented marshmallow to float it and the other on a kastmaster. Had more bites but they were a swing and a miss or missed the bite on the crawler while i was flinging the kastmaster. It was pretty windy so i didnt get to fly fish like i wanted to but i plan to head up there a little later in summer to do some evening flyfishing on my ultralight 4 weight :D




One of my best friends =) novice fisherwoman but im teaching her the ways ;)






one of the little bows i managed to catch ]]> Trout Board IronClad http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104931-went-little-scout-today.html Good News http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104912-good-news.html Tue, 14 May 2013 17:05:01 GMT Can Fish Feel Pain? Finally, An Answer - weather.com


I've always wondered about this. I slightly thought I was traumatizing fish for my personal enjoyment. I had already accepted the fact that it was part of the game. I recently went on fishing trip where we decided to to keep a couple for dinner, and one of the guys caught one, but couldn't bring himself to kill the fish he respected. Not at all saying killing fish is bad, I do it too :) I did however highly admire his deep felt respect for the fish. I would feel bad if the fish I caught felt the pain as bad as I would if I were mouth hooked and landed. Don't get me wrong I'd still fish, but it would kind of bug me. Thanks to this artical I can no longer worry about it. ]]> Trout Board Marv http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104912-good-news.html <![CDATA["It was just a bunch of crazy fish guys that had a dream".]]> http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104906-just-bunch-crazy-fish-guys-had-dream.html Tue, 14 May 2013 04:32:56 GMT Another telling of the Pyramid LCT story. Big trout saved from close call with extinction - Environment - The Sacramento Bee... Another telling of the Pyramid LCT story.

Big trout saved from close call with extinction - Environment - The Sacramento Bee ]]> Trout Board borntoscout http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/trout-board/104906-just-bunch-crazy-fish-guys-had-dream.html