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    Re: California Lakes and the use of minnows for bait

    1.63. MOVEMENT OF LIVE FISH.
    Except as provided in sections 4.00 through 4.30
    and 230, live fin fish may not be transported alive
    from the water where taken.

    ARTICLE 3. BAIT REGULATIONS FOR
    INLAND WATERS
    4.00. BAIT-GENERAL.
    Legally acquired and possessed invertebrates,
    mollusks, crustaceans, amphibians (except
    salamanders), fish eggs and treated and processed
    foods may be used for bait, except:
    (a) No species specified as endangered, threatened,
    candidate, fully-protected, or otherwise protected
    under state and federal law may be used as bait.
    (b) No salamander may be used as bait. See section
    5.05 for other amphibians that may be used as bait.
    (c) See Section 5.35 for restrictions on crayfish;
    (d) See Section 7.50(b)(74) for restriction on bait
    collecting in Hat Creek;
    (e) No trout may be maintained or possessed in
    a live condition in any container on or attached
    to any boat;
    (f ) Except for restrictions listed under special
    regulations, dead ocean fish may be used as bait
    statewide. This section supersedes the provisions
    of sections 4.10, 4.15, 4.20, 4.25 and 4.30.
    4.05. BAIT FISH CAPTURE METHODS.
    (a) Approved bait fish may be taken only by hand,
    with a dip net, or with traps not over three feet
    in greatest dimension. Such bait fish may not be
    purchased, bartered, sold, transferred or traded;
    or transported alive from the location where taken.
    Any other species taken shall be returned to the
    water immediately. Traps need not be closely
    attended. Dip net use: A dip net must be hand held,
    and the motion of a dip net shall be caused only by
    the physical effort of the operator. A dip net may
    not be moved through the water by any mechanical
    force or motorized device.
    (b) Within the area bounded by Highway 111 on
    the north and east and Highway 86 on the west
    and south, approved bait fish may be taken only
    with dip nets with diagonal mesh size one inch and
    greater, or by traps in water greater than four feet in
    depth. Traps may not exceed three feet in greatest
    dimension. Approved bait fish may not be taken
    by hand within this area.
    4.10. BAIT FISH USE IN THE SOUTHERN
    DISTRICT.
    Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish shall
    not be used or possessed for use as bait in the
    Southern District:
    (a) Dead threadfin shad and live or dead longjaw
    mudsucker may be used in all Southern District
    waters.
    (b) Live threadfin shad may be used only at the
    location where taken.
    (c) Golden shiner and red shiner may be used in
    San Diego County.
    4.15. BAIT FISH USE IN THE COLORADO RIVER
    DISTRICT.
    Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish shall
    not be used or possessed for use as bait in the
    Colorado River District:
    (a) Live or dead golden shiner, fathead minnow, red
    shiner, mosquitofish, longjaw mudsucker, threadfin
    shad, goldfish, sunfish, molly, and dead carp may be
    used in all Colorado River District waters.
    (b) Live carp may be used only at the location
    where taken.
    (c) Tilapia may be used in the Salton Sea, and may
    be taken for bait only within the area bounded by
    Highway 111 on the north and east and Highway
    86 on the west and south (except as in subsection
    (d) below.
    (d) Tilapia may be taken and used for bait in the
    Colorado River and its associated backwaters only
    within the area bounded by Palo Verde Diversion
    Dam south to the Morelos Dam.
    4.20. BAIT FISH USE IN THE VALLEY AND
    SOUTH CENTRAL DISTRICTS.
    Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish shall
    not be used or possessed for use as bait in the Valley
    or South Central District:
    (a) Live or dead golden shiner, fathead minnow,
    mosquitofish, longjaw mudsucker, and staghorn
    sculpin, and dead threadfin shad, Mi
    ssissippi silverside and lamprey may be used in
    all Valley and South Central District waters except
    those listed in subsection (f) below.
    (b) Red shiner may be used only in the Valley District
    north of Interstate 580 and Highway 132.
    (c) Yellowfin gobies may be used in the Valley
    District only in those areas described in subsections
    (d)(1)-(3) below.
    (d) In addition, except for trout and salmon, fin fish
    lawfully taken in the following waters by angling or
    with bait fish methods approved in Section 4.05
    may be used, only in the waters where taken:
    (1) Carquinez Strait and Suisun Bay and their
    tributaries and saltwater tributaries.

    (2) Sacramento River and tidewater of tributaries
    downstream from the Highway 32 bridge near
    Hamilton City, Feather River downstream from the
    Oroville Hatchery Fish Barrier Dam, and American
    River downstream from Nimbus Dam.
    (3) San Joaquin River and tidewater of tributaries
    downstream from Interstate 5 bridge.
    (e) Live threadfin shad, Mississippi silverside and
    lamprey may be used only at the location where
    taken.
    (f) Fin fish may not be used in Keller Lake (Glenn
    Co.), Letts Lake (Colusa Co.), Merced Lake (San
    Francisco Co.), Upper and Lower Plaskett Meadow
    Ponds (Glenn Co.), Whale Rock Reservoir (San Luis
    Obispo Co.).
    4.25. BAIT FISH USE IN THE NORTH CENTRAL
    DISTRICT.
    Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish shall
    not be used or possessed for use as bait in the North
    Central District:
    (a) Golden shiner, fathead minnow, red shiner,
    mosquitofish, longjaw mudsucker and staghorn
    sculpin may be used in Napa and Sonoma counties,
    in Marin County except for Stafford Lake, in Lake
    County except for the Eel River and its tributaries,
    and in Lake Mendocino (Mendocino Co.).
    (b) Live threadfin shad, Mississippi silverside and
    lamprey may be used only at the location where taken.
    4.30. BAIT FISH USE IN THE SIERRA AND
    NORTH COAST DISTRICTS.
    Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish shall
    not be used or possessed for use as bait in the Sierra
    and North Coast Districts.
    (a) In Donner, Fallen Leaf and Tahoe lakes Lahontan
    redside, tui chub, Tahoe sucker, Lahontan speckled
    dace, mountain sucker and Paiute sculpin may be
    used only in the same lake where taken.
    (b) In Shasta Lake only golden shiner, red shiner,
    fathead minnows, mosquitofish and threadfin shad
    may be used or possessed for use as bait.
    (c) Crayfish shall not be used for bait in the Pit River
    and all tributaries between Pit 3 Dam (Lake Britton)
    and the Fall River-Cassel Road Bridge at Fall River
    Mills, California (includes Hat Creek and Fall River
    and their tributaries).

    There is no reason to rely on the information/misinformation provided by another angler.

    AskaWarden@dfg.ca.gov A DFW rep will answer any questions you may have.







    Quote Originally Posted by alpenit View Post
    Hi All,

    I have read the regs and sen some input but feel the answers and regs are not specific enough.
    The questions is - isn't it legal to catch the native bait fish - minnows - in a body of water and then use them as bait in that body of water???
    I get the idea of not moving species from one body to another and agree... but if that native bait fish to that body is there and food anyway - isn't it perfectly ok to use it as a bait?
    I see where Tahoe, Donner, Shasta accept certain species.. and all other lakes are banned.. but at the same time - the reading is not specific enough to distinguish between the import of species to a lake or use of what is there already?
    I went out and bought a minnow trap, only to be told the lake I want to use it in - I couldn't, by a fellow fisherman..
    I fish for trout on mountain lakes and rivers...
    Thanks for clearing it up for me... common sense right?
    Mark
    David

    "Where's the water? 2015 is just around the corner!"

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    Re: California Lakes and the use of minnows for bait

    Quote Originally Posted by alpenit View Post
    Hi All,

    I have read the regs and sen some input but feel the answers and regs are not specific enough.
    The questions is - isn't it legal to catch the native bait fish - minnows - in a body of water and then use them as bait in that body of water???
    I get the idea of not moving species from one body to another and agree... but if that native bait fish to that body is there and food anyway - isn't it perfectly ok to use it as a bait?
    I see where Tahoe, Donner, Shasta accept certain species.. and all other lakes are banned.. but at the same time - the reading is not specific enough to distinguish between the import of species to a lake or use of what is there already?
    I went out and bought a minnow trap, only to be told the lake I want to use it in - I couldn't, by a fellow fisherman..
    I fish for trout on mountain lakes and rivers...
    Thanks for clearing it up for me... common sense right?
    Mark
    Mark, I won't even try to tell you where you can or can't do what you want to do because it would be an exhausting effort and the risk of me making a mistake is highly probable.

    The regulations can vary widely. The general regulations are very general and vague in many areas by design. The special regulations are supplemental to the general regulations and are more specific.

    Sometimes, in order to make sense of it you have to be able to understand CCR Title 14 so often your best bet is to contact DFW with your question and let them try to explain it.

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    California Lakes and the use of minnows for bait

    Hi All,

    I have read the regs and sen some input but feel the answers and regs are not specific enough.
    The questions is - isn't it legal to catch the native bait fish - minnows - in a body of water and then use them as bait in that body of water???
    I get the idea of not moving species from one body to another and agree... but if that native bait fish to that body is there and food anyway - isn't it perfectly ok to use it as a bait?
    I see where Tahoe, Donner, Shasta accept certain species.. and all other lakes are banned.. but at the same time - the reading is not specific enough to distinguish between the import of species to a lake or use of what is there already?
    I went out and bought a minnow trap, only to be told the lake I want to use it in - I couldn't, by a fellow fisherman..
    I fish for trout on mountain lakes and rivers...
    Thanks for clearing it up for me... common sense right?
    Mark

 

 

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