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    Re: First time trolling - spinning reel?

    Quote Originally Posted by rosietheaussie View Post
    Hey retiredagain. Our rods are 9ft Shimano Scimitars we picked up at fisherman’s warehouse - love that place! Yesterday we realized we can’t go less than 5 mph with our I/o motor (4 cylinder, I guess it didn’t like prolonged slow idle), so probably will need to think about a trolling motor in the future... In the meantime, we thought we might try anchoring to use the cut plugs with the current. I’m pretty sure that’s a thing?


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    My recommendation on lowering your trolling speed: Amish trolling bags. Look that up. I bought my 18' Crestliner in March, equipped with a 150hp 4 stroke Mercury. No trolling motor. We got the boat as slow as 4 mpg, not slow enough. I didn't want to purchase and mount a trolling motor and I certainly wasn't going to drill holes in my new motor and mount a plate. So, I was recommended a pair of size 18" Amish trolling bags and they work amazingly well. I just attached them to the front left and right side cleat, just under the bow, well away from any trolling gear. We've since trolled for trout, stripers and salmon at speeds as low as 1.7 mph. Just a thought.

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    Re: First time trolling - spinning reel?

    Quote Originally Posted by retiredagain View Post
    A lot of people use a heavy bucket at the end of a rope to slow down Dont laugh, it works. Also, on the Sac river, with the changing depth of the river every feet it seems, you constantly have to let line out or pull it in. The tips of your rods will tell you what the the bottom is. If the tip starts bouncing, your on the bottom. Pull it in.
    I dont use my line counters so much. I use my fish finder, let the line out till it hits bottom, then pull it up a few cranks. Does it work? Enough for me. Caught a 6# and a 17# hen yesterday.



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    Not laughing, I’ve seen boaters use the buckets before. It works! Congrats on the nice fish. The Boat came with a fish finder. Will be figuring out how to use it and will follow your tips. Thanks, retiredagain


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    Re: First time trolling - spinning reel?

    Quote Originally Posted by retiredagain View Post
    Does it work? Enough for me. Caught a 6# and a 17# hen yesterday.

    What the heck? No report of the great outing? :)

    Cheers,

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    Cool Re: First time trolling - spinning reel?

    A lot of people use a heavy bucket at the end of a rope to slow down Dont laugh, it works. Also, on the Sac river, with the changing depth of the river every feet it seems, you constantly have to let line out or pull it in. The tips of your rods will tell you what the the bottom is. If the tip starts bouncing, your on the bottom. Pull it in.
    I dont use my line counters so much. I use my fish finder, let the line out till it hits bottom, then pull it up a few cranks. Does it work? Enough for me. Caught a 6# and a 17# hen yesterday.



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    First time trolling - spinning reel?

    Btw, in case anyone is interested - here’s our new to us, but 50 year old boat (1969 Tom Sawyer)!


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    Re: First time trolling - spinning reel?

    Quote Originally Posted by murph View Post
    I think you're getting the right info. Yes you can troll with the spincasters though the baitcasters are a little more user friendly for that technique. Having said that, don't let having only spincasters keep you from fishing. Just keep reading and watching and you'll figure out what is going to be best for you guys in the long run. Good luck and congrats on the boat.
    Thanks for the reassurance murph. We went out and had a blast even though we lost gear... always disappointing. We know there is a learning curve, & it takes time and effort to get better...


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    Re: First time trolling - spinning reel?

    Quote Originally Posted by honksrworkn View Post
    I use spinning reels off the downriggers trolling for trout but your not worrying about how far you wanna set back ..... Trolling for Salmon its always easier to use a casting feel with line counter .... Line counter reels have come a long ways and there are plenty of decent budget options available these days ..... KastKing , Okuma off hand , Diawa makes the Lexus in a bunch of sizes but cost a bit more , and if you don't mind spending a little more get the Shimano Tekota in 3 or 400 size with counter IMO the best ...
    Good fish n to ya
    I’ll definitely look these reels up - thanks honks!


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    Re: First time trolling - spinning reel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowtrout View Post
    You didn’t mention brand or size of your spinning reels. Can they hold +60yds (180’) of 17-25lb line? If yes, you should be fine. If not, they might not have the line capacity or drag capability for a large salmon. You didn’t mention rods used either. Flashers have a lot of drag and can easily overpower a rod not up to the task.

    Key issue with using spinning reels for trolling is repeatability: knowing how much line is behind the boat and repeating that. Best way is to pull line off the reel with your hand in 2’ increments, so 20 pulls=about 40’.

    Another option, but is something I would not suggest without knowing how much line is gained by one handle crank or with weighted lures, is to click the back reel button and count the handle turns until you get to your desired line back. Most reels reel in 24” to over 30” of line per crank so just like above 20 back cranks with 24” coming off =40’ line out.

    As for bait casting reels, those with non disengaging levelwinds can allow one to count the “bars” or how many times the level wind goes across. For example, the Abu Garcia 5500’s=7.5’ per bar across and the 6500’s=10’ per bar.

    If you’re not into math or have difficulties in remembering what happened 5 min ago but really want to learn how to troll, buy some decent linecounters and enjoy life. Well worth the investment.
    Hey snowtrout. We have 9ft Shimano Scimitars. One reel is a Daiwa Laguna 4000 5bi the other is an Okuma 40 (much smaller and only 1 ball bearing if I remember). Pretty sure both have 16-17lb test line, so yikes we are on the low end.

    How do you decide how much line to pull out, or do you just consistently use 30-40 ft if that setup worked in the past? We did try to measure as you said, but between my husband & I, there was an argument about how many feet line should go out... one of us said 80 YARDS & one of us said a small fraction of that... lol, will not out who said what. But I imagine you can guess. ;-) thanks for your help.


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    Re: First time trolling - spinning reel?

    Quote Originally Posted by retiredagain View Post

    An important question I havent seen is, what is the length of the rods? For cut plugs and flashers, you need a minimum of a 9 ft rod. In this case, longer is better.


    You can use a shorter rod for running spinners or quick fish. Fishermans warehouse has a great 10 1/2 ft casting rod for $49.00, (a shimano) that I just bought, and it is great.
    Hey retiredagain. Our rods are 9ft Shimano Scimitars we picked up at fisherman’s warehouse - love that place! Yesterday we realized we can’t go less than 5 mph with our I/o motor (4 cylinder, I guess it didn’t like prolonged slow idle), so probably will need to think about a trolling motor in the future... In the meantime, we thought we might try anchoring to use the cut plugs with the current. I’m pretty sure that’s a thing?


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