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    Re: West Coaster 152 by Klamath recall

    Quote Originally Posted by LONO100 View Post
    DO NOT remove those floats! If you do, and by chance you swamp that boat, you will have put all liability and responsibility on your shoulders and taken everything off the shoulders of Klamath including their bad design work.

    If I were you, and if you bought the boat new from a dealer, this is what I would do: I'd go to both your dealer and Klamath and tell them you want a full complete refund for the boat, or to take the purchase price you paid and put it toward a comparable boat without the design flaw and need for that shoddy fix. Tell them if they dont oblige you that you will seek legal council. Then when they try to call your bluff, get a lawyer. Once you have legal representation they will magically be willing to meet your demands. Years ago I had a similar situation happen and had to fight BMW over it. I got a lawyer and went to the BBB, and suddenly they met my demands. These companies try to make you believe that you have no options but to pay for their recalls, design flaws and weak craftsmanship, but if you just seek legal council and if you have a solid case, they will oblige you after trying to call your bluff.

    Imagine if you bought a brand new home and after you closed escrow, the home builder came back to your house after you moved in and said that there was a major flaw in the design of the home, and to make it livable they were going to remove the living room? That's pretty much what happened to you with this boat if in fact Klamath knew of the coast guard standards and designed the boat after the fact without proper material.

    Do not accept that horrible fix, get a lawyer. I cannot stress that enough! Make sure you end up with a boat you agreed to pay for, not some boat with a bunch of metal cans taking up all the floor space. It sucks that you might have to litigate this, but take that loss and get the boat you wanted and agreed to spend your money on instead of having live with looking at that loss of space everytime you are riding around and trying to fish out of that thing. Dig in, get legal representation if Klamath wants to takes it that far and end up with a boat you want, instead of kicking yourself everyday over that crap recall fix.
    100% agree


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    Re: West Coaster 152 by Klamath recall

    Well said LONO100 !!!

    As LONO100 stated, legal action is the only recourse you have.

    Klamath will never admit fault or offer anything other than their fix unless you take legal action against them.

    You may even be able to make them pay for your legal fees?!?!!

    Mike
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    Re: West Coaster 152 by Klamath recall

    DO NOT remove those floats! If you do, and by chance you swamp that boat, you will have put all liability and responsibility on your shoulders and taken everything off the shoulders of Klamath including their bad design work.

    If I were you, and if you bought the boat new from a dealer, this is what I would do: I'd go to both your dealer and Klamath and tell them you want a full complete refund for the boat, or to take the purchase price you paid and put it toward a comparable boat without the design flaw and need for that shoddy fix. Tell them if they dont oblige you that you will seek legal council. Then when they try to call your bluff, get a lawyer. Once you have legal representation they will magically be willing to meet your demands. Years ago I had a similar situation happen and had to fight BMW over it. I got a lawyer and went to the BBB, and suddenly they met my demands. These companies try to make you believe that you have no options but to pay for their recalls, design flaws and weak craftsmanship, but if you just seek legal council and if you have a solid case, they will oblige you after trying to call your bluff.

    Imagine if you bought a brand new home and after you closed escrow, the home builder came back to your house after you moved in and said that there was a major flaw in the design of the home, and to make it livable they were going to remove the living room? That's pretty much what happened to you with this boat if in fact Klamath knew of the coast guard standards and designed the boat after the fact without proper material.

    Do not accept that horrible fix, get a lawyer. I cannot stress that enough! Make sure you end up with a boat you agreed to pay for, not some boat with a bunch of metal cans taking up all the floor space. It sucks that you might have to litigate this, but take that loss and get the boat you wanted and agreed to spend your money on instead of having live with looking at that loss of space everytime you are riding around and trying to fish out of that thing. Dig in, get legal representation if Klamath wants to takes it that far and end up with a boat you want, instead of kicking yourself everyday over that crap recall fix.
    Last edited by LONO100; 12-01-2019 at 10:21 AM.

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    Re: West Coaster 152 by Klamath recall

    Quote Originally Posted by Ldubs View Post
    Wow, that is a significant change. A real shame IMO because those are a nice compromise sized boat.

    I would ask for a full refund so I could buy the boat I wanted. I'm sure there will be a lot of push back, but heck, that is a material change to the boat's utility. I sure cannot find any fault for you wanting what you paid for.

    Anyway, however you decide to proceed, you have my best wishes for a successful resolution.

    PS: Out of curiosity I checked Klamath's site. They are kind of light on interior photos of the Westcoaster. They still talk about the "wide open cockpit".
    I have found only one boat shop who advertises the West coaster 152 with a couple of small pics of the 'flotation boxes' in a new boat:
    Coos Bay Marine......

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    Re: West Coaster 152 by Klamath recall

    Wow, that is a significant change. A real shame IMO because those are a nice compromise sized boat.

    I would ask for a full refund so I could buy the boat I wanted. I'm sure there will be a lot of push back, but heck, that is a material change to the boat's utility. I sure cannot find any fault for you wanting what you paid for.

    Anyway, however you decide to proceed, you have my best wishes for a successful resolution.

    PS: Out of curiosity I checked Klamath's site. They are kind of light on interior photos of the Westcoaster. They still talk about the "wide open cockpit".

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    Re: West Coaster 152 by Klamath recall

    I would be upset too. You bought the boat because of its layout and now that layout has changed due to Klamath making a mistake or not keeping up with the CG regs.

    At this point, either accept the change or discuss with Klamath how this situation can be rectified to your satisfaction.

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    Re: West Coaster 152 by Klamath recall

    Quote Originally Posted by 5outta6 View Post
    You sound like a Klamath representative, except for the "just don't sink the boat".
    If i couldn't get a refund of some type and had to live with it then i would just remove them. I know guy's with Alumawelds that had the same type flotation boxes and just removed them. Previous years of the same model didn't have them right ? I don't think your going to spend much time on the Ocean so probably not a big fear of sinking the boat.

    I wouldn't be happy either but to me i just remove them and enjoy my boat, no big deal.

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    Re: West Coaster 152 by Klamath recall

    I’d threaten legal action and if nothing is done go forward. They sold you a boat that wasn’t up to coast guard standards and now there’s no room for your needs. If it was certified and looked like what it looks like now with the boxes you wouldn’t have bought it.


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    Re: West Coaster 152 by Klamath recall

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelyMan View Post
    Unscrew them and take them out,, put them back when you sell it.

    Just don't sink the boat.
    You sound like a Klamath representative, except for the "just don't sink the boat".

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    Re: West Coaster 152 by Klamath recall

    Unscrew them and take them out,, put them back when you sell it.

    Just don't sink the boat.

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