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    Howdy to All and Thanks Bob , Don, and Fellow Sniffers !!!! .... ....... Remember Love is in the...................... ..........And May Yee All Stear a True Coarse with Constant Speed Back to Home Port for Supper Time !!!!.... ...........gst

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    Re: Tahoe Tribune Article "Storms brew over crawfish" 1/12/2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Wabo Cabo View Post
    And you would be wrong. He is bending over backwards to ease conflicts with sports fishermen, but just like the guides he also has every right to make a living from Lake Tahoe. He is licensed and following the regulations he is required to follow. Lake Tahoe is a multi-use lake. They have boating, fishing, sightseeing cruises, jet skiing and a host of other water sports. One does not have exclusivity of the lake use over others.

    And if wrong, Wabo it wont be the first time, probably not the last either! if correct thats great, but the tone of the "Science vs Myth" remarks would have suggested otherwise......im also fairly certain that a modern commercial fishery upon California's inland waters is setting some kind of precedent, good or bad i suppose time will tell.......I simply offered my opinion, just as Lake Tahoe is multi use, this forum is multi opinion.......Bob

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    I Can only say what we discussed and it was as adults in A Workable Atmosphere or We can make this Make this work attitude. ....................The system will show in time if One Operation or Heaven Help us, More than 5 or 6 more ........ .......Can even work on Tahoe. Time will tell. I and Leonard only have Good Intent with Fred and his Operation. Success or Failure ...It is in Fred and Gods Hands Now . The THIEVES on North east shore that hit his Traps were In the Wrong and WE All Will Keep Eyes Peeled on The Water for Any Funny Stuff around Fred s Buoys FOR SURE. .................We are after all trying to Troll for Trout instead of Traps. Or so... most of us that is. gst

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    Re: Tahoe Tribune Article "Storms brew over crawfish" 1/12/2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Wabo Cabo View Post
    And you would be wrong. He is bending over backwards to ease conflicts with sports fishermen, but just like the guides he also has every right to make a living from Lake Tahoe. He is licensed and following the regulations he is required to follow. Lake Tahoe is a multi-use lake. They have boating, fishing, sightseeing cruises, jet skiing and a host of other water sports. One does not have exclusivity of the lake use over others.
    What part of this don't you understand????? [quote]



    Both St. Denis and O'Malley approved of the potential solution, stating that the more information the fishing community has, the better.


    “We're willing to do this right ... It's always learning to avoid things, and I think we can do that with what we've discussed here,” St. Denis said. “We can give that a shot. And I'll do everything I can to press the word on that, ‘Hey, lets be professional and give the devil its due.'”

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    Re: Tahoe Tribune Article "Storms brew over crawfish" 1/12/2012

    Quote Originally Posted by iggybabble View Post
    Boy oh boy, all I needed to hear was that remark about science vs myth to suggest that the crawdad guy isn't really willing to work with others regarding solving this debate.......my compliments to ALL of the sports fisherman for trying to resolve this for all our benefit. While all sides seem to agree that one operation probably won't seriously alter Tahoes trout fisheries, it usually all starts with one, and grows bigger and bigger....the Commercial Fishery for Lahontan Cutthroat started off real small too
    And you would be wrong. He is bending over backwards to ease conflicts with sports fishermen, but just like the guides he also has every right to make a living from Lake Tahoe. He is licensed and following the regulations he is required to follow. Lake Tahoe is a multi-use lake. They have boating, fishing, sightseeing cruises, jet skiing and a host of other water sports. One does not have exclusivity of the lake use over others.

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    Re: Tahoe Tribune Article "Storms brew over crawfish" 1/12/2012

    How far do we take this "Invasive Species" issue? at its most absurd that would require most humans to leave the area! dont have Native American bloodlines? out with ya! All that aside, im glad that two charter operators were at the meeting to make sure the sportsfishing interests are being looked at.....Bob

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    We can help change Real Problems in Our Lakes and Rivers.... you just have to CARE. However, I am Loading up the PT-109 ( in Light Snow ) and Fish on Lake Tahoe , just like yesterday Ye Hah !! Got to Love It... Fishing Every Day on the Lake of the Sky !!! What a Privilege and Honor !! See you out in the Field !!!! gst

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    Well, Leonard O Malley and I went to the Tahoe Coalition Fisheries Meeting at South Lake Tahoe and met with Fred and the Goverment Officals of TRPA, NDW, FFW , and everyone else. To solve the trap snag and buoy issues Fred is going to post a Map of the Traps locations and Bring buoys up to the surface of Lake Tahoe with Large Visible Surface Trap Buoys . We as Fisherman will use the map and surface buoys to Hopefully AVOID his traps. There will be a surface buoy at the First trap and a Buoy at the end Trap . He will have 4 of 5 Traps.. maybe more in each Trap set. Will keep you updated. We must keep an Eye out for Trap Thieves as this will help us ALL. So keep an eye out for Traps and Trap Thieves . Here is the Tahoe tribune Article and link. gst Tahoe Lobster Co., anglers meet to discuss crawfish harvest concerns
    By Axie Navas
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    Representatives of the Tahoe Lobster Co. met Thursday with several South Shore anglers to discuss concerns that the crawfish harvest will negatively impact fishing in Tahoe.


    Tahoe Lobster Co., the first commercial fishing operation to come to Tahoe since the 1930s, acquired the permit to catch and sell the crustaceans in July. The Tahoe Regional Planning Agency and other organizations have praised the company's efforts to remove the invasive species from the lake, but some sportfishermen worry that they'll lose lures on the submerged traps.


    Fred Jackson, owner of Tahoe Lobster Co., opened the discussion Thursday at the Tahoe & Truckee River Fisheries Coalition meeting by stating his desire to foster open communication between the two parties.


    “I'd like to work with these guys and actually give them a map of where we're working. I'm willing to do anything with the fishing community. I can't speak for anybody else but my business, but we're here to open the dialog,” Jackson said.


    Operator of Blue Ribbon Fishing Charters Gene St. Denis and Leonard O'Malley of O'Malley Fishing Charters — the only licensed outfitters at Thursday's meeting — said their primary concern was snagging the submerged traps with fishing lines. If a guide catches a trap with the lure, it will cost him or her valuable time and equipment, O'Malley said.


    That scenario could be the reason behind the loss of almost 80 Tahoe Lobster Co. traps that disappeared last fall. Jackson posited that an inexperienced fishermen might have hooked the line before throwing the catch back into the water. And the anglers don't want to be held responsible for accidentally pulling up a trap.


    “It's a challenge to me. I take people out sport fishing, so if I don't know where your traps are and I come across it and I get snagged up with a $30 lure ... If I get caught in your traps, I got to put that time back onto my client's time. I don't want you to think I'm taking your traps,” O'Malley said.


    If more crawfish companies start to drop traps, the anglers worry that areas of shoreline could become “minefields” for guides. TRPA Senior Fisheries and Wildlife Biologist Patrick Stone said Thursday he's received one application and heard from three other interested groups since the agency approved four more crawfish permits last year.


    Jackson said it's too expensive to mark each trap with a Coast Guard-approved buoy, but he could float two buoys to mark the area where the company had laid traps. Stone suggested that the TRPA could create an email list or website with the GPS coordinates of the markers that would be available to sportsfishermen.


    Both St. Denis and O'Malley approved of the potential solution, stating that the more information the fishing community has, the better.


    “We're willing to do this right ... It's always learning to avoid things, and I think we can do that with what we've discussed here,” St. Denis said. “We can give that a shot. And I'll do everything I can to press the word on that, ‘Hey, lets be professional and give the devil its due.'”


    http://www.tahoedailytribune.com/art...ntProfile=1056

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    Re: Tahoe Tribune Article "Storms brew over crawfish" 1/12/2012

    Eat more crawdads, 10 million trout can't be wrong.

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    Re: Tahoe Tribune Article "Storms brew over crawfish" 1/12/2012

    I'd much rather see someone try the crawdad commercial fishery on a smaller lake first. On a smaller lake, it's logical to assume we would see the results from a new fishery far faster than upon a lake the size of Tahoe, good or bad. I'd rather have numbers and stats in a short period of time, rather than waiting. While commercial and sport fisheries can sometimes co exist quite well, I'm skeptical about Tahoe being a good place to initially try a new fishery. I also believe that a lake that falls under two states jurisdictional regulations will really complicate matters further..........keep us all in the loop, Capt!

 

 
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