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    Re: Trout Derby Live-well Question

    There is a law called "wanton waste" that addresses C&R of fish that die. If you catch a fish and you release it dead or it swims off three feet and dies and you do not retrieve it and "bag it" you could be cited. C&R will never be against the law because trout fisherman practice it an many places and its recommended in some places like Melones where brown trout do not get stocked anymore and their release is recommended to keep the species in the lake or like Sonoma with the landlocked trout/steelhead. The issue of NO C&R needs to be cleared up before any derbies happen because like Bass Jack said about shaking off fish....that could be considered culling or C&R? Standard C&R means to land the fish then release it but I see a guy shaking them off at the boat (or bank) and then being disqualified for braking the rules of the derby? RF

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    Re: Trout Derby Live-well Question

    Quote Originally Posted by hooks View Post
    Until then C&R all you want. No law against it. Although the laws are intentionally written in a vague manner to give wardens leeway to interpret them. Maybe?
    I love this train of thought. Following this logic, I'm going to spend the day tipping over every vending machine I can find onto myself. I know there is a sticker that clearly says not to right on the side of the machine, but there is no law specifically against vending tipping, just some convoluted personal injury mumbo jumbo. Who wants to join me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reel Fun View Post
    Kinda weird that they say to follow all DFW rules but then say no C&R? C&R trout is not illegal and at best very hard to near impossible for a derby to enforce so that's going be a honor thing. As far as culling fish from the livewell or stringer.....that's illegal for sure. Sounds like a great derby with a huge payout!! RF
    My guess is that when they said no C&R they actually meant no culling.

    What reason would they have to not want people to C&R? Why would they be against it?

    Will definitely be difficult to enforce C&R.

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    Re: Trout Derby Live-well Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Reel Fun View Post
    Kinda weird that they say to follow all DFW rules but then say no C&R? C&R trout is not illegal and at best very hard to near impossible for a derby to enforce so that's going be a honor thing. As far as culling fish from the livewell or stringer.....that's illegal for sure. Sounds like a great derby with a huge payout!! RF
    Ronnie,looks like you keep the 1st five fish you get no matter what size an then turn in the biggest one!!!I guess.lol...

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    Re: Trout Derby Live-well Question

    Kinda weird that they say to follow all DFW rules but then say no C&R? C&R trout is not illegal and at best very hard to near impossible for a derby to enforce so that's going be a honor thing. As far as culling fish from the livewell or stringer.....that's illegal for sure. Sounds like a great derby with a huge payout!! RF

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    Re: Trout Derby Live-well Question

    I'd say these posts above me answer the question! Sounds like I'll be taking a small ice chest and keeping the first five I catch. Thanks all!
    A day of fishing beats a day at work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reel Fun View Post
    All California Dept. of Fish & Wildlife fishing regulations apply, including possession of a valid
    California fishing license for everyone age 16 & up. Anglers must fish only with a closely attended
    fishing rod. No hand lines or drag nets are allowed. Catch and release is not allowed. Snagging of fish
    is prohibited. State limits of 5 trout per person shall be required of all participants. RF
    That seems to answer the OP's question and leaves little to doubt.

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    Re: Trout Derby Live-well Question

    All California Dept. of Fish & Wildlife fishing regulations apply, including possession of a valid
    California fishing license for everyone age 16 & up. Anglers must fish only with a closely attended
    fishing rod. No hand lines or drag nets are allowed. Catch and release is not allowed. Snagging of fish
    is prohibited. State limits of 5 trout per person shall be required of all participants. RF

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    Re: Trout Derby Live-well Question

    Quote Originally Posted by BassJack View Post
    Since this derby only allows the weigh in on one fish, culling is kind of a moot point. You can shake off any small fish at the side of the boat and keep up to five decent fish as part of your daily bag limit. Plenty of breathing room.

    I can tell you this - if I fish any of the derbies my first fish is going into the cooler regardless of size. After that I'll keep any bigger fish or bleeders. This isn't the BASS Elite Series. If I can have a fun day of fishing and come out with five trout for the BBQ I'll be happy.

    I've found that the best way to preserve fish for a derby like is is to immediately knock them out and store them in a cooler filled with ice water. As others have mentioned, transporting live trout is illegal.
    The way I read it is that "shaking off" fish at the boat might be considered "culling" or C&R? I see this in Kokanee derbies all the time......at Melones during the 2 day Kokanee derby there are hundreds of small dead Kokanee floating all over because guys do not want to limit out in 30 min of fishing so they shake them off at the boat or net them...hold them...take the hook out and toss them back. I saw a few people doing this a couple years ago and the small koks were getting hammered by huge browns some over 10lbs!...RF
    Last edited by Reel Fun; 12-12-2013 at 07:30 AM.

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    Re: Trout Derby Live-well Question

    Since this derby only allows the weigh in on one fish, culling is kind of a moot point. You can shake off any small fish at the side of the boat and keep up to five decent fish as part of your daily bag limit. Plenty of breathing room.

    I can tell you this - if I fish any of the derbies my first fish is going into the cooler regardless of size. After that I'll keep any bigger fish or bleeders. This isn't the BASS Elite Series. If I can have a fun day of fishing and come out with five trout for the BBQ I'll be happy.

    I've found that the best way to preserve fish for a derby like is is to immediately knock them out and store them in a cooler filled with ice water. As others have mentioned, transporting live trout is illegal.

 

 
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